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	<title>Comments on: 5 Things to Know Before Becoming an ELance Provider</title>
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		<title>By: Clyde A. Lettsome, Ph.D., P.E.</title>
		<link>http://www.businesspundit.com/5-things-to-know-before-becoming-an-elance-provider/comment-page-1/#comment-18472</link>
		<dc:creator>Clyde A. Lettsome, Ph.D., P.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During bad economic times, there are too many low bidders and too many people looking for the lowest bidder.  Because of this, I am not sure if low bidding will eventually lead to success.  You could find yourself loosing money for a long time to come and yes it could hurt if you have a limited amount of funds. 

In general, I would caution any true professional from considering these websites as viable means of earning extra income despite the economic recession. My problem is with most of the employers/buyers on the site. More often than not, you will encounter employers/buyers that will waste your time and, furthermore, do not have realistic expectations given the budget for their projects.

True enough, this happens in everyday business but not in this type of setting. When the government or professional businesses put out an RFP, more often than not, the contract is awarded to someone. In addition, when these entities select a winner, they consider experience, ability, as well as price. We spent 4 months on a few of these freelance marketplace websites. During that period more than 75% of the jobs we placed a bid on were never awarded to anyone. Of the jobs awarded, almost all went to the lowest bidder. Some of them actually went to bidders bidding below the employer’s/buy’s estimated budget range for the project.

In conclusion, recession or not, our company will not be using these sites in the future unless we are asked to by a legitimate employer/buyer.

I have blogged about our experience on our website at
http://blog.calabrix.com/?m=200909 and on about.com at http://freelancewrite.about.com/b/2008/02/06/thoughts-on-elancecom.htm#commentform</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During bad economic times, there are too many low bidders and too many people looking for the lowest bidder.  Because of this, I am not sure if low bidding will eventually lead to success.  You could find yourself loosing money for a long time to come and yes it could hurt if you have a limited amount of funds. </p>
<p>In general, I would caution any true professional from considering these websites as viable means of earning extra income despite the economic recession. My problem is with most of the employers/buyers on the site. More often than not, you will encounter employers/buyers that will waste your time and, furthermore, do not have realistic expectations given the budget for their projects.</p>
<p>True enough, this happens in everyday business but not in this type of setting. When the government or professional businesses put out an RFP, more often than not, the contract is awarded to someone. In addition, when these entities select a winner, they consider experience, ability, as well as price. We spent 4 months on a few of these freelance marketplace websites. During that period more than 75% of the jobs we placed a bid on were never awarded to anyone. Of the jobs awarded, almost all went to the lowest bidder. Some of them actually went to bidders bidding below the employer’s/buy’s estimated budget range for the project.</p>
<p>In conclusion, recession or not, our company will not be using these sites in the future unless we are asked to by a legitimate employer/buyer.</p>
<p>I have blogged about our experience on our website at<br />
<a href="http://blog.calabrix.com/?m=200909" rel="nofollow">http://blog.calabrix.com/?m=200909</a> and on about.com at <a href="http://freelancewrite.about.com/b/2008/02/06/thoughts-on-elancecom.htm#commentform" rel="nofollow">http://freelancewrite.about.com/b/2008/02/06/thoughts-on-elancecom.htm#commentform</a></p>
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		<title>By: Skills Finder™</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skills Finder™</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the UK and the rest of Europe is to follow the USA, where freelancing is king and online web applications like Skills Finder™ - http://www.skillsfinder.com which provide alternative end to end freelance marketplace platforms to support flexible outsourcing for SME, SOHO and Start-up businesses to outsource their projects to fully rated independant freelance professionals, manage project delivery online and securely pay for services received.

Flexible Outsourcing is a viable option for SME, SOHO and Start-up Businesses to stay afloat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the UK and the rest of Europe is to follow the USA, where freelancing is king and online web applications like Skills Finder™ &#8211; <a href="http://www.skillsfinder.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.skillsfinder.com</a> which provide alternative end to end freelance marketplace platforms to support flexible outsourcing for SME, SOHO and Start-up businesses to outsource their projects to fully rated independant freelance professionals, manage project delivery online and securely pay for services received.</p>
<p>Flexible Outsourcing is a viable option for SME, SOHO and Start-up Businesses to stay afloat.</p>
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		<title>By: Basit Anwer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Basit Anwer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 20:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The post was very helpful to me , thank you for sharing your experience. My team is actually about to start freelancing, 

we can provide the quality but were hesitant in starting the business, Thanks again for the post

by the way, i have heard alot negative about the Elance staff management, heard that they dont usually reply to questions asked</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The post was very helpful to me , thank you for sharing your experience. My team is actually about to start freelancing, </p>
<p>we can provide the quality but were hesitant in starting the business, Thanks again for the post</p>
<p>by the way, i have heard alot negative about the Elance staff management, heard that they dont usually reply to questions asked</p>
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		<title>By: Ariana J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ariana J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 02:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For people who are willing to work for little money, and be slave labor it might be a great site but if you are a professional you should stay away from this site.

The clients at Elance are the worst people to work for, they expect you to underbid your peers and then they become &quot;marketing experts&quot; who think paying chump change allows them to become pure AS#H*LES. Sure if you are just getting started or are willing to dig your dignity out of the SH#T they shovel out then yes Elance will work for you. BUT WARNING WARNING... learn the lesson NEVER WORK FOR AN AS#H*LE. Fire them if you are putting in too much effort for too little payment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For people who are willing to work for little money, and be slave labor it might be a great site but if you are a professional you should stay away from this site.</p>
<p>The clients at Elance are the worst people to work for, they expect you to underbid your peers and then they become &#8220;marketing experts&#8221; who think paying chump change allows them to become pure AS#H*LES. Sure if you are just getting started or are willing to dig your dignity out of the SH#T they shovel out then yes Elance will work for you. BUT WARNING WARNING&#8230; learn the lesson NEVER WORK FOR AN AS#H*LE. Fire them if you are putting in too much effort for too little payment.</p>
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		<title>By: Ketan Rindani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ketan Rindani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 09:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both the blog post as well as the comments were helpful. 

In one of the comments I read that Indian freelancers can afford to undercut as their cost of living is low. That&#039;s not true. I am from India and I often wonder how people can afford to bid for projects on Lme Exchange etc. for as low as $0.80-1.5 per 500 words! Imagine the client&#039;s guts - do they think writers, designers etc. are typists or cartoonists? Even cartoonists are artists in their own right! Despite being in India, my hourly rate is around $10. I would probably be &quot;uaffordable&quot; for most Lime Exchange or Get a Frellancer clients!

I think, if you really want to &#039;make it&#039;, you should chip away at the rock, but smartly; and it is bound to give way one day. I just hope that day is not far!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both the blog post as well as the comments were helpful. </p>
<p>In one of the comments I read that Indian freelancers can afford to undercut as their cost of living is low. That&#8217;s not true. I am from India and I often wonder how people can afford to bid for projects on Lme Exchange etc. for as low as $0.80-1.5 per 500 words! Imagine the client&#8217;s guts &#8211; do they think writers, designers etc. are typists or cartoonists? Even cartoonists are artists in their own right! Despite being in India, my hourly rate is around $10. I would probably be &#8220;uaffordable&#8221; for most Lime Exchange or Get a Frellancer clients!</p>
<p>I think, if you really want to &#8216;make it&#8217;, you should chip away at the rock, but smartly; and it is bound to give way one day. I just hope that day is not far!!</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Caltraw</title>
		<link>http://www.businesspundit.com/5-things-to-know-before-becoming-an-elance-provider/comment-page-1/#comment-14592</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Caltraw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been using rentacoder from quite a while. It&#039;s a great site. Two years ago I was scammed by Getacoder.com after thay took money of my account stating the money was invalid from another buyer. Such left me without $170 and hours of free work. Getacoder.com is the worst of freelance sites and their managers help scammers to rob honest freelancers. Don&#039;t use getacoder. Getacoder is BAD!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using rentacoder from quite a while. It&#8217;s a great site. Two years ago I was scammed by Getacoder.com after thay took money of my account stating the money was invalid from another buyer. Such left me without $170 and hours of free work. Getacoder.com is the worst of freelance sites and their managers help scammers to rob honest freelancers. Don&#8217;t use getacoder. Getacoder is BAD!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tejas Parab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tejas Parab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 10:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I think this blog post is just fantastic.

My firm began work on Elance only a couple of months ago and we are already ranked 201 among all other providers. 

In our 5 months, we have exactly been through the same things, lowballing, rethinking strategies and we emerged as winners cuz we went for providing quality work, service rather than think of money at the time. We are now 7 employees and its amazing how a simple blog post can describe 5 months of our experiences.

Also I only wish I would have read this 5 months ago, it could have saved so much of our time to progress, well, atleast new Elancers can benefit from this.

- Tejas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I think this blog post is just fantastic.</p>
<p>My firm began work on Elance only a couple of months ago and we are already ranked 201 among all other providers. </p>
<p>In our 5 months, we have exactly been through the same things, lowballing, rethinking strategies and we emerged as winners cuz we went for providing quality work, service rather than think of money at the time. We are now 7 employees and its amazing how a simple blog post can describe 5 months of our experiences.</p>
<p>Also I only wish I would have read this 5 months ago, it could have saved so much of our time to progress, well, atleast new Elancers can benefit from this.</p>
<p>- Tejas</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Privacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Privacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 19:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elance wanted me to pay them to be able to submit more bids, wtf? They spammed me even when I unsubscribed.
I&#039;ve done web consulting on the side since 2004 and web development since 1998.  I decided I don&#039;t need these jokers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elance wanted me to pay them to be able to submit more bids, wtf? They spammed me even when I unsubscribed.<br />
I&#8217;ve done web consulting on the side since 2004 and web development since 1998.  I decided I don&#8217;t need these jokers.</p>
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		<title>By: prone</title>
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		<dc:creator>prone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 01:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used both elance and oDesk, I found a lot more paying jobs on odesk and the jobs were for longer terms. I had trouble getting paid for the work I did on elance and when I was trying to get people to help me with a quick firefox plugin job the providers i found on elance never really got done with the work. I&#039;d recomend oDesk but not elance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used both elance and oDesk, I found a lot more paying jobs on odesk and the jobs were for longer terms. I had trouble getting paid for the work I did on elance and when I was trying to get people to help me with a quick firefox plugin job the providers i found on elance never really got done with the work. I&#8217;d recomend oDesk but not elance.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 03:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. This really describes what 90% of the successful Elance users are experiencing. Just don&#039;t forget to fire your worst clients once you are out of panic mode. I&#039;ve described my technique for doing that on my most recent blog post: http://www.elance-professional.info/elance-tips-fire-your-clients/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. This really describes what 90% of the successful Elance users are experiencing. Just don&#8217;t forget to fire your worst clients once you are out of panic mode. I&#8217;ve described my technique for doing that on my most recent blog post: <a href="http://www.elance-professional.info/elance-tips-fire-your-clients/" rel="nofollow">http://www.elance-professional.info/elance-tips-fire-your-clients/</a></p>
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