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		<title>By: Steven  Solberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven  Solberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I moved from the West Coast to Minneapolis and forgot to update my online Citi Bank Credit Card Account with a balance of $45.00 escalating interest rates and penalties amounted to over $4000 in a matter of five months with no forwarded paper statement alert. Citi Bank was merciless despite my impeccable credit history. And customer service responded to my pleas for understanding with threats and intimidation. Why should I the taxpayer be required to bail out a predatory inhumane machine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I moved from the West Coast to Minneapolis and forgot to update my online Citi Bank Credit Card Account with a balance of $45.00 escalating interest rates and penalties amounted to over $4000 in a matter of five months with no forwarded paper statement alert. Citi Bank was merciless despite my impeccable credit history. And customer service responded to my pleas for understanding with threats and intimidation. Why should I the taxpayer be required to bail out a predatory inhumane machine?</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so, if Citi goes bankrupt, will that cancel out the small fortune worth&#039;s of debt I have stored up on my trusty Citi-card?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so, if Citi goes bankrupt, will that cancel out the small fortune worth&#8217;s of debt I have stored up on my trusty Citi-card?</p>
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		<title>By: Drea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another point--consolidation would put us at risk of a big, clumsy business oligarchy. Wait a sec...we may already be there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another point&#8211;consolidation would put us at risk of a big, clumsy business oligarchy. Wait a sec&#8230;we may already be there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Drea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nash--good points. If Paulson &amp; Co. are committed to transparency on all fronts, big and strong will work. The benefits of big/strong used to be that they were reliable, had more resources than regional banks, more financial power. All of those trust-based assets have been flushed down the toilet. But the monster could still work with proper regulatory mechanisms in place. Whether the gov is capable of that is hard to say.

What does need to happen is that strong units of big banks remain, and the useless ones get flushed out. The big boys are still pillars of the industry, even if they&#039;ve been discredited for the time being. They evolve, the system stays afloat. 

Consolidation is a bad idea, I agree. We might as well rename the whole shebang Bank of the United States and let it be obvious who&#039;s running it. At the same time--reverting to large numbers of regional/local banks sounds progressive but improbable. What role do the large banks play in supporting smaller banks? What does the model look like? Would removing the big boys create systemic instabilities? Moreover, would politicians and execs be forward-thinking enough to surrender the old model for something that would diffuse their own influence? Finally, would regional banks have enough mettle to take up the roles that big banks used to play?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nash&#8211;good points. If Paulson &amp; Co. are committed to transparency on all fronts, big and strong will work. The benefits of big/strong used to be that they were reliable, had more resources than regional banks, more financial power. All of those trust-based assets have been flushed down the toilet. But the monster could still work with proper regulatory mechanisms in place. Whether the gov is capable of that is hard to say.</p>
<p>What does need to happen is that strong units of big banks remain, and the useless ones get flushed out. The big boys are still pillars of the industry, even if they&#8217;ve been discredited for the time being. They evolve, the system stays afloat. </p>
<p>Consolidation is a bad idea, I agree. We might as well rename the whole shebang Bank of the United States and let it be obvious who&#8217;s running it. At the same time&#8211;reverting to large numbers of regional/local banks sounds progressive but improbable. What role do the large banks play in supporting smaller banks? What does the model look like? Would removing the big boys create systemic instabilities? Moreover, would politicians and execs be forward-thinking enough to surrender the old model for something that would diffuse their own influence? Finally, would regional banks have enough mettle to take up the roles that big banks used to play?</p>
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		<title>By: NashEntLaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>NashEntLaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drea,

Here and elsewhere I&#039;ve heard plenty of folks talking about getting rid of weak banks and supporting stronger ones as a guiding philosophy in revamping the banking industry.  However, aren&#039;t mega-huge, &quot;too big to fail&quot; banks mostly responsible for this debacle?  

Rather than a handful of huge banks, let&#039;s say that we still had hundreds (if not thousands) of regional &amp;/or niche banks spread throughout the country.  Would all of them have drank from the same sub prime punch?  Would they all have issued the same ill-advised CDSs?

Diversity and broad participation are natural insulators from market disruptions like we&#039;re having today; for the same reason every broker will say diversification is a key component to wise investing, why is it that we&#039;re so willing to put all of our banking eggs into so few baskets?  More importantly, why is it that many are advocating for further consolidation?  Won&#039;t this put us at greater risk in the future?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drea,</p>
<p>Here and elsewhere I&#8217;ve heard plenty of folks talking about getting rid of weak banks and supporting stronger ones as a guiding philosophy in revamping the banking industry.  However, aren&#8217;t mega-huge, &#8220;too big to fail&#8221; banks mostly responsible for this debacle?  </p>
<p>Rather than a handful of huge banks, let&#8217;s say that we still had hundreds (if not thousands) of regional &amp;/or niche banks spread throughout the country.  Would all of them have drank from the same sub prime punch?  Would they all have issued the same ill-advised CDSs?</p>
<p>Diversity and broad participation are natural insulators from market disruptions like we&#8217;re having today; for the same reason every broker will say diversification is a key component to wise investing, why is it that we&#8217;re so willing to put all of our banking eggs into so few baskets?  More importantly, why is it that many are advocating for further consolidation?  Won&#8217;t this put us at greater risk in the future?</p>
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		<title>By: JR Moreau</title>
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		<dc:creator>JR Moreau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Citi should definitely be nationalized. It can&#039;t run itself and has been in trouble as long as I can remember. Chop it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citi should definitely be nationalized. It can&#8217;t run itself and has been in trouble as long as I can remember. Chop it up.</p>
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