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		<title>By: laurence haughton</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurence haughton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think so (frankly in either direction).

Solving customer pRoblems must be done profitably (so that you don&#039;t waste society&#039;s resources). But the only test of your business&#039;s ability to solve pRoblems is a clear statement of the pRoblem and proof (which could include perception of a solution but can&#039;t be solely based on customer perceptions) that the pRoblem has been solved.

Profit has been made by many businesses that failed to solve customer pRoblems.  Again there is a lag time between people buying a promise and finding out that the business doesn&#039;t live up to their promises.  During the lag many businesses are profitable.

For example, a lot of enterprise software buyers get far less than an acceptable solution from their vendors. I even saw one study where a significant minority of software buyers were worse off after employing the software.  The profits in those cases were earned while making a pRoblem worse!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think so (frankly in either direction).</p>
<p>Solving customer pRoblems must be done profitably (so that you don&#8217;t waste society&#8217;s resources). But the only test of your business&#8217;s ability to solve pRoblems is a clear statement of the pRoblem and proof (which could include perception of a solution but can&#8217;t be solely based on customer perceptions) that the pRoblem has been solved.</p>
<p>Profit has been made by many businesses that failed to solve customer pRoblems.  Again there is a lag time between people buying a promise and finding out that the business doesn&#8217;t live up to their promises.  During the lag many businesses are profitable.</p>
<p>For example, a lot of enterprise software buyers get far less than an acceptable solution from their vendors. I even saw one study where a significant minority of software buyers were worse off after employing the software.  The profits in those cases were earned while making a pRoblem worse!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laurence,
Doh!  I guess I&#039;m busted for &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;affirming the consequent&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  That was my take on Drucker&#039;s statement that &lt;i&gt;managers must convert society&#039;s needs into opportunities for profitable business&lt;/i&gt;.

The question is, does it work both ways?  If solving customer pRoblems =&gt; profit, does profit =&gt; solving customer pRoblems?  When I say this, I mean economic profit, not financial profit.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laurence,<br />
Doh!  I guess I&#8217;m busted for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent" rel="nofollow">affirming the consequent<br /></a>.  That was my take on Drucker&#8217;s statement that <i>managers must convert society&#8217;s needs into opportunities for profitable business</i>.</p>
<p>The question is, does it work both ways?  If solving customer pRoblems => profit, does profit => solving customer pRoblems?  When I say this, I mean economic profit, not financial profit.</p>
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		<title>By: laurence haughton</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurence haughton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Rob I don&#039;t see where Drucker elevates profit to the &quot;proof that you are making a valuable contribution to society.&quot;

He says very clearly profit is not the &quot;explanation, cause, or rationale of business behavior and business decisions.&quot; If profit was the proof that you are making a valuable contribution to society wouldn&#039;t it be a valid rationale or at least an explanation of why you behave the way you do? He says no!

Later Drucker says that not making a profit wastes society&#039;s resources. But to stretch &quot;not wasting resources&quot; to the proof that you are making a valuable contribution to society is going too far.

I think his statement that profit &quot;is the test of their [business behavior or a decision&#039;s] validity&quot; needs to be explored further.  Drucker was (to my mind) very clearly admonishing both the view that profit is a bad thing and that profit is the driver of good decision making.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Rob I don&#8217;t see where Drucker elevates profit to the &#8220;proof that you are making a valuable contribution to society.&#8221;</p>
<p>He says very clearly profit is not the &#8220;explanation, cause, or rationale of business behavior and business decisions.&#8221; If profit was the proof that you are making a valuable contribution to society wouldn&#8217;t it be a valid rationale or at least an explanation of why you behave the way you do? He says no!</p>
<p>Later Drucker says that not making a profit wastes society&#8217;s resources. But to stretch &#8220;not wasting resources&#8221; to the proof that you are making a valuable contribution to society is going too far.</p>
<p>I think his statement that profit &#8220;is the test of their [business behavior or a decision's] validity&#8221; needs to be explored further.  Drucker was (to my mind) very clearly admonishing both the view that profit is a bad thing and that profit is the driver of good decision making.</p>
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		<title>By: Marketing Headhunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marketing Headhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2005 21:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  Drucker rules.  It&#039;s hard to underestimate his contribution to management science.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  Drucker rules.  It&#8217;s hard to underestimate his contribution to management science.</p>
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