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	<title>Comments on: Succeed Without Being Well-Liked?  Maybe Jeffrey Pfeffer Should Read His Own Book.</title>
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		<title>By: laurence haughton</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurence haughton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 20:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob puhleeze.  No excuses for these two.

Business life is too short, the stakes are too high, and there&#039;s so much on everyone&#039;s plate.  We don&#039;t have time for pundits who are full of it (or even half full.)

The pundit and the professor both deserve a bronx cheer.  (And maybe a highway salute.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob puhleeze.  No excuses for these two.</p>
<p>Business life is too short, the stakes are too high, and there&#8217;s so much on everyone&#8217;s plate.  We don&#8217;t have time for pundits who are full of it (or even half full.)</p>
<p>The pundit and the professor both deserve a bronx cheer.  (And maybe a highway salute.)</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 16:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob...it&#039;s reasonable to ask the CEO, during the interview, &quot;Can I have dinner with you occasionally?&quot; But putting it in the hiring agreement is silly. You can&#039;t force people to want to do things, and if a year later the CEO doesn&#039;t want to have dinner with you, or doesn&#039;t have time, and you point to the clause in the contract, it&#039;s going to piss him off mightily.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob&#8230;it&#8217;s reasonable to ask the CEO, during the interview, &#8220;Can I have dinner with you occasionally?&#8221; But putting it in the hiring agreement is silly. You can&#8217;t force people to want to do things, and if a year later the CEO doesn&#8217;t want to have dinner with you, or doesn&#8217;t have time, and you point to the clause in the contract, it&#8217;s going to piss him off mightily.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 14:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post David.  I still think, after reading Pfeffer&#039;s book, that this probably wasn&#039;t how he intended to come across.  He probably set out to address the problem that people pleasers have in the workplace.  They say yes to everything and don&#039;t rock the boat for fear of upsetting someone.  They think that by being nice to everyone, you eventually get noticed and promoted.  And that mindset should certainly be challenged.

The way it ended up being presented though, is that it&#039;s ok to be a jerk because as long as you win people want to be associated with you.  After writing an entire book about half-truths, I don&#039;t understand why Pfeffer didn&#039;t see that he was addressing two extremes, neither of which is good workplace behavior.

I don&#039;t see anything wrong with, for instance, Ferrazzi&#039;s desire to dine with the CEO as part of his hiring package.  It&#039;s a smart move to pick the brains of smart people, although admittedly Ferrazzi comes across as just wanting face time so he could get promoted.  I think he&#039;s right that you should associate with people that will help your career.  I would rather spend time with business people learning and asking questions and networking than with some of my less-than-ambitious college buddies that just want to go drink beer.  But Ferrazzi doesn&#039;t address the fact that at work, you don&#039;t know where people will end up - especially when you and your co-workers are young.  Addressing everyone with a basic level of respect and helpfullness pays off in the long-term and makes for a better work environment.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post David.  I still think, after reading Pfeffer&#8217;s book, that this probably wasn&#8217;t how he intended to come across.  He probably set out to address the problem that people pleasers have in the workplace.  They say yes to everything and don&#8217;t rock the boat for fear of upsetting someone.  They think that by being nice to everyone, you eventually get noticed and promoted.  And that mindset should certainly be challenged.</p>
<p>The way it ended up being presented though, is that it&#8217;s ok to be a jerk because as long as you win people want to be associated with you.  After writing an entire book about half-truths, I don&#8217;t understand why Pfeffer didn&#8217;t see that he was addressing two extremes, neither of which is good workplace behavior.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see anything wrong with, for instance, Ferrazzi&#8217;s desire to dine with the CEO as part of his hiring package.  It&#8217;s a smart move to pick the brains of smart people, although admittedly Ferrazzi comes across as just wanting face time so he could get promoted.  I think he&#8217;s right that you should associate with people that will help your career.  I would rather spend time with business people learning and asking questions and networking than with some of my less-than-ambitious college buddies that just want to go drink beer.  But Ferrazzi doesn&#8217;t address the fact that at work, you don&#8217;t know where people will end up &#8211; especially when you and your co-workers are young.  Addressing everyone with a basic level of respect and helpfullness pays off in the long-term and makes for a better work environment.</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 05:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like the link didn&#039;t take--here it is:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://photoncourier.blogspot.com/2004_03_01_photoncourier_archive.html#107846402267071758&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://photoncourier.blogspot.com/2004_03_01_photoncourier_archive.html#107846402267071758&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the link didn&#8217;t take&#8211;here it is:<br />
<a href="http://photoncourier.blogspot.com/2004_03_01_photoncourier_archive.html#107846402267071758" rel="nofollow">http://photoncourier.blogspot.com/2004_03_01_photoncourier_archive.html#107846402267071758</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 04:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more I think about this column, the more it pisses me off.

Here&#039;s some advice of a very different sort: &lt;a href=&quot;http://photoncourier.blogspot.com/archives/2004_03_01_photoncourier_archive.html#107846402267071758&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ambition and Opportunism&lt;/a&gt;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more I think about this column, the more it pisses me off.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some advice of a very different sort: <a href="http://photoncourier.blogspot.com/archives/2004_03_01_photoncourier_archive.html#107846402267071758" rel="nofollow">Ambition and Opportunism</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: laurence haughton</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurence haughton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 00:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on David.  We need &quot;guru malpractice&quot; lawsuits to rein these pundits in.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on David.  We need &#8220;guru malpractice&#8221; lawsuits to rein these pundits in.</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 23:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was a ridiculous article. It&#039;s one thing to stand up for something you believe in, even if it&#039;s unpopular...it&#039;s something else entirely to treat people rudely.

In real business organizations, it does matter what people think of you. And the &quot;As, Bs, and Cs&quot; are not always who you think they are.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was a ridiculous article. It&#8217;s one thing to stand up for something you believe in, even if it&#8217;s unpopular&#8230;it&#8217;s something else entirely to treat people rudely.</p>
<p>In real business organizations, it does matter what people think of you. And the &#8220;As, Bs, and Cs&#8221; are not always who you think they are.</p>
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		<title>By: S. Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>S. Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2006 19:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In your entry above, you state &quot;...You don&#039;t want to become a sycophant...&quot; In principal and practice I agree with you. I have a conscience and I like to sleep well at night.
However this is a two sided coin.  Some people may subscribe to sycophancy and make it work for them.

In either case, each person has to live with the consequences of their own actions.

I&#039;ve enclosed a link to an article published yesterday by Harvard in their Working Knowledge newsletter: &quot;LBJ&#039;s Deliberate March for Power&quot;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://hbswk.hbs.edu/item.jhtml?id=5332&amp;t=bizhistory&amp;wkrss=y&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://hbswk.hbs.edu/item.jhtml?id=5332&amp;t=bizhistory&amp;wkrss=y&lt;/a&gt;
It summarizes LBJ’s thirst and accumulation of power through sycophancy.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In your entry above, you state &#8220;&#8230;You don&#8217;t want to become a sycophant&#8230;&#8221; In principal and practice I agree with you. I have a conscience and I like to sleep well at night.<br />
However this is a two sided coin.  Some people may subscribe to sycophancy and make it work for them.</p>
<p>In either case, each person has to live with the consequences of their own actions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve enclosed a link to an article published yesterday by Harvard in their Working Knowledge newsletter: &#8220;LBJ&#8217;s Deliberate March for Power&#8221;  <a href="http://hbswk.hbs.edu/item.jhtml?id=5332&#038;t=bizhistory&#038;wkrss=y" rel="nofollow">http://hbswk.hbs.edu/item.jhtml?id=5332&#038;t=bizhistory&#038;wkrss=y</a><br />
It summarizes LBJ’s thirst and accumulation of power through sycophancy.</p>
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