Comments on: The Google of Eden: Will All This Data Bring Out The Worst In Us? http://www.businesspundit.com/the-google-of-eden-will-all-this-data-bring-out-the-worst-in-us/ Entrepreneurship, Startup Companies and Business Philosophy Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:54:25 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Rob http://www.businesspundit.com/the-google-of-eden-will-all-this-data-bring-out-the-worst-in-us/comment-page-1/#comment-2888 Rob Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:57:24 +0000 http://www.businesspundit.com.php5-6.websitetestlink.com/?p=3419#comment-2888 SJ, Yes, but I won't ignore science just because I don't like the conclusions. SJ,
Yes, but I won’t ignore science just because I don’t like the conclusions.

]]> By: sj http://www.businesspundit.com/the-google-of-eden-will-all-this-data-bring-out-the-worst-in-us/comment-page-1/#comment-2887 sj Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:59:07 +0000 http://www.businesspundit.com.php5-6.websitetestlink.com/?p=3419#comment-2887 Mr. Rob, Have you ever studied the Bible or do you just pick info out that supports your point of view? To believe we are just mammals opens up a world that is declining. Mr. Rob,

Have you ever studied the Bible or do you just pick info out that supports your point of view? To believe we are just mammals opens up a world that is declining.

]]> By: Nick Huhn http://www.businesspundit.com/the-google-of-eden-will-all-this-data-bring-out-the-worst-in-us/comment-page-1/#comment-2886 Nick Huhn Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:24:07 +0000 http://www.businesspundit.com.php5-6.websitetestlink.com/?p=3419#comment-2886 Thanks for recapping and augmenting our previous conversations on the topic, Rob. Very nicely done! I wonder if we'll someday we'll have the opportunity to globally opt-out, pay a premium for anonymity, or have some other way to to disconnect ourselves from any predictive advertising or behavioral patterns computers and marketers may create for us? Taking bets on which politician introduces legislation for the "Do Not Advertise" list that guarantees iron-clad privacy... Thanks for recapping and augmenting our previous conversations on the topic, Rob. Very nicely done! I wonder if we’ll someday we’ll have the opportunity to globally opt-out, pay a premium for anonymity, or have some other way to to disconnect ourselves from any predictive advertising or behavioral patterns computers and marketers may create for us?

Taking bets on which politician introduces legislation for the “Do Not Advertise” list that guarantees iron-clad privacy…

]]> By: Rob http://www.businesspundit.com/the-google-of-eden-will-all-this-data-bring-out-the-worst-in-us/comment-page-1/#comment-2885 Rob Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:11:23 +0000 http://www.businesspundit.com.php5-6.websitetestlink.com/?p=3419#comment-2885 Chris, In some ways that is true. That's why Billy Graham never spends time alone with any woman except his wife. Chris,
In some ways that is true. That’s why Billy Graham never spends time alone with any woman except his wife.

]]> By: Chris http://www.businesspundit.com/the-google-of-eden-will-all-this-data-bring-out-the-worst-in-us/comment-page-1/#comment-2884 Chris Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:22:28 +0000 http://www.businesspundit.com.php5-6.websitetestlink.com/?p=3419#comment-2884 You should let anyone that trusts you know you are susceptible to these influences. I would find it hard to work with, love or value someone who could be so easily persuaded. Thinking has always been a requirement of man. If a man chooses not to think someone else will be required to think for him or he will die. That someone could be Google, Government, Spouse, Boss etc You should let anyone that trusts you know you are susceptible to these influences. I would find it hard to work with, love or value someone who could be so easily persuaded.

Thinking has always been a requirement of man. If a man chooses not to think someone else will be required to think for him or he will die. That someone could be Google, Government, Spouse, Boss etc

]]> By: Paul http://www.businesspundit.com/the-google-of-eden-will-all-this-data-bring-out-the-worst-in-us/comment-page-1/#comment-2883 Paul Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:44:23 +0000 http://www.businesspundit.com.php5-6.websitetestlink.com/?p=3419#comment-2883 I do think we have free will, as has been demonstrated in neurological experiments regarding attention and the strengthening of synaptic connections. It is willful concentration that can allow the same stimulus to have different neurological effects on different people. So, the potential DOES exist for a "worse" future. And it is no secret that a major goal of advertising is to arouse a primitive, emotional response that in an ideal setting would have you reacting and buying before your rational brain ever gets its say. I don't see a great benefit in being catered to with advertisements every second of every day (I admit this is purely a personal preference). My system becomes dulled to the overbearing presence of ads as it is. Only in a pathologically consumerist society does one think that having "the right thing sold to you all the time" is a good thing, that our existence should be measured in terms of being catered to with material goods. I someone really believes the pinnacle of mankind is to be able to buy the right thing at the right time...well, let me know how that works out for you. I do think we have free will, as has been demonstrated in neurological experiments regarding attention and the strengthening of synaptic connections. It is willful concentration that can allow the same stimulus to have different neurological effects on different people. So, the potential DOES exist for a “worse” future. And it is no secret that a major goal of advertising is to arouse a primitive, emotional response that in an ideal setting would have you reacting and buying before your rational brain ever gets its say. I don’t see a great benefit in being catered to with advertisements every second of every day (I admit this is purely a personal preference). My system becomes dulled to the overbearing presence of ads as it is. Only in a pathologically consumerist society does one think that having “the right thing sold to you all the time” is a good thing, that our existence should be measured in terms of being catered to with material goods. I someone really believes the pinnacle of mankind is to be able to buy the right thing at the right time…well, let me know how that works out for you.

]]> By: Nic http://www.businesspundit.com/the-google-of-eden-will-all-this-data-bring-out-the-worst-in-us/comment-page-1/#comment-2882 Nic Wed, 12 Dec 2007 04:05:16 +0000 http://www.businesspundit.com.php5-6.websitetestlink.com/?p=3419#comment-2882 wowza. definitely didn't expect to see existentialist thought on the business blog this evening. especially not the incredibly honest variety. but i will say that the great thing about being "moist robots" (as Scott Adams likes to call us) is that there is really no such thing as a "worse future". if we agree that humans don't REALLY have free will, and that their decisions are actually based solely on the collision of chemicals and firing of synapses in the brain, then we have to agree that things like good, evil, better, worse, etc. are all fabrications of a pattern-seeking mind machine. so rest in the knowledge that there is no "worse future". because there's no such thing as "worse". unless, of course, there happens to be something outside the mind that enables human choice, in which case we're all screwed anyway (albeit in a different way). wowza. definitely didn’t expect to see existentialist thought on the business blog this evening.

especially not the incredibly honest variety.

but i will say that the great thing about being “moist robots” (as Scott Adams likes to call us) is that there is really no such thing as a “worse future”.

if we agree that humans don’t REALLY have free will, and that their decisions are actually based solely on the collision of chemicals and firing of synapses in the brain, then we have to agree that things like good, evil, better, worse, etc. are all fabrications of a pattern-seeking mind machine.

so rest in the knowledge that there is no “worse future”. because there’s no such thing as “worse”.

unless, of course, there happens to be something outside the mind that enables human choice, in which case we’re all screwed anyway (albeit in a different way).

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