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		<title>By: J. MacAuslan</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. MacAuslan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the kind words, Karolyn.  Selection bias, and subsequent regression to the mean, is indeed the bane of any such historical study.  FWIW, that is why I stacked 4 decades in a row when I mentioned Buffett&#039;s case. With so much data, the statistical-significance threshold can be set low enough that you have an excellent chance of seeing RTTM, if that&#039;s all his performance really is: The company would fail to live up to the standard it set in the previous decade, with high probability.

One thing that justifies this much attention on Collins&#039; study is that the quantity of available data is so large that you can ask more probing statistical questions.  The conventional stat. significance threshold in social sciences is 5%, which would indeed yield lots of &quot;significant results&quot; that are completely meaningless.  If you wanted to use the methodology for Buffett, though, you could easily go with .001, or even lower, just because the data are so numerous: Maybe he will flunk that test -- I haven&#039;t run the numbers.  But if he does pass it, you can have very high confidence that selection bias is NOT the cause.  (You might even be able to run a full Bayesian analysis, to assess the conditional probability that he is extraordinary.  But that&#039;s getting a bit arcane here.)

I still stand by my earlier comment, though, that this flawed study -- statistics or no statistics -- is more useful than a consultant&#039;s hunch.  For one thing, we can dissect the study as we are doing here, and appreciate its limitations as well as its virtues.  

For another, I believe that GtG and BtL have a salutary effect on business discourse.  The conclusions are often contrary to conventional business thinking.  But unlike a lot of the latter, they are backed up by SOME real data, not merely antisocial excuses masquerading as &quot;hard-headed business logic&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the kind words, Karolyn.  Selection bias, and subsequent regression to the mean, is indeed the bane of any such historical study.  FWIW, that is why I stacked 4 decades in a row when I mentioned Buffett&#8217;s case. With so much data, the statistical-significance threshold can be set low enough that you have an excellent chance of seeing RTTM, if that&#8217;s all his performance really is: The company would fail to live up to the standard it set in the previous decade, with high probability.</p>
<p>One thing that justifies this much attention on Collins&#8217; study is that the quantity of available data is so large that you can ask more probing statistical questions.  The conventional stat. significance threshold in social sciences is 5%, which would indeed yield lots of &#8220;significant results&#8221; that are completely meaningless.  If you wanted to use the methodology for Buffett, though, you could easily go with .001, or even lower, just because the data are so numerous: Maybe he will flunk that test &#8212; I haven&#8217;t run the numbers.  But if he does pass it, you can have very high confidence that selection bias is NOT the cause.  (You might even be able to run a full Bayesian analysis, to assess the conditional probability that he is extraordinary.  But that&#8217;s getting a bit arcane here.)</p>
<p>I still stand by my earlier comment, though, that this flawed study &#8212; statistics or no statistics &#8212; is more useful than a consultant&#8217;s hunch.  For one thing, we can dissect the study as we are doing here, and appreciate its limitations as well as its virtues.  </p>
<p>For another, I believe that GtG and BtL have a salutary effect on business discourse.  The conclusions are often contrary to conventional business thinking.  But unlike a lot of the latter, they are backed up by SOME real data, not merely antisocial excuses masquerading as &#8220;hard-headed business logic&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Karolyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 05:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had to comment - so many good comments on such a cranky review!

Overall, methodological critiques are a good thing. If the first thing you think when you see statistics or any research is &quot;how did they screw this up?&quot; -- you&#039;re in good company.

On the other hand, tossing out a half-baked list of potential problems with a book addressing a comprehensive research program is capricious at best.  The methodology is based in behavioral science and if only platitudes are gleaned from it, that appeared to me intentional. The book is supposed to be describing the similarities between a subset of companies that experienced unprecedented success.

No kidding, the companies regressed toward the mean over time.  J. MacAuslen was right to think of probability, although his plan to test whether a company performed better than random would produce consistent, unhelpful, significant results.

Here&#039;s the ACTUAL problem with the book (confirmed by another commenter&#039;s 2007 comparison of the G2G companies&#039; S&amp;P):  Regression toward the mean (and here&#039;s an excellent student-written explanation of the phenomenon : http://www.socialresearchmethods.net/tutorial/Cheng/lcheng.htm)

Other critiques of G2G sound too much like old standby criticism to drag out in a grad school response paper... &quot;sample was drawn from college students only&quot; or &quot;results may vary by gender/race/location/day/time/etc&quot;

I personally liked the add-on monograph, Good to Great and the Social Sectors - Why Business Thinking is Not the Answer.  The case studies were selected as examples, but did not emerge from a major data based study like in G2G.  If we&#039;re questioning the validity of his selection criteria, Good to Great and the Social Sectors dodges that bullet altogether.  I *strongly* recommend starting with the 35page 2005 follow-up.  There&#039;s just enough information about the main concepts, like hedgehog, that you may want to buy G2G to elaborate.  But, if you&#039;re unimpressed, you saved yourself a lot of fluff reading and still retained the main concepts (with examples that AREN&#039;T of failing business!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had to comment &#8211; so many good comments on such a cranky review!</p>
<p>Overall, methodological critiques are a good thing. If the first thing you think when you see statistics or any research is &#8220;how did they screw this up?&#8221; &#8212; you&#8217;re in good company.</p>
<p>On the other hand, tossing out a half-baked list of potential problems with a book addressing a comprehensive research program is capricious at best.  The methodology is based in behavioral science and if only platitudes are gleaned from it, that appeared to me intentional. The book is supposed to be describing the similarities between a subset of companies that experienced unprecedented success.</p>
<p>No kidding, the companies regressed toward the mean over time.  J. MacAuslen was right to think of probability, although his plan to test whether a company performed better than random would produce consistent, unhelpful, significant results.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the ACTUAL problem with the book (confirmed by another commenter&#8217;s 2007 comparison of the G2G companies&#8217; S&amp;P):  Regression toward the mean (and here&#8217;s an excellent student-written explanation of the phenomenon : <a href="http://www.socialresearchmethods.net/tutorial/Cheng/lcheng.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.socialresearchmethods.net/tutorial/Cheng/lcheng.htm</a>)</p>
<p>Other critiques of G2G sound too much like old standby criticism to drag out in a grad school response paper&#8230; &#8220;sample was drawn from college students only&#8221; or &#8220;results may vary by gender/race/location/day/time/etc&#8221;</p>
<p>I personally liked the add-on monograph, Good to Great and the Social Sectors &#8211; Why Business Thinking is Not the Answer.  The case studies were selected as examples, but did not emerge from a major data based study like in G2G.  If we&#8217;re questioning the validity of his selection criteria, Good to Great and the Social Sectors dodges that bullet altogether.  I *strongly* recommend starting with the 35page 2005 follow-up.  There&#8217;s just enough information about the main concepts, like hedgehog, that you may want to buy G2G to elaborate.  But, if you&#8217;re unimpressed, you saved yourself a lot of fluff reading and still retained the main concepts (with examples that AREN&#8217;T of failing business!)</p>
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		<title>By: J. Steinberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Steinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 05:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m impreesed with the number of comments about the book, and unimpressed with the book. This idea, &#039;Get the right people on the bus, then figure out where to go&#039; sounds like typical hokey jargon, meaningless. How does one determine the qualities needed in the right people if one does not first determine what you want out of them? Scary that so many people look to this book for guidance.
As a VP for a non-profit health organization, I am struck with how the business world thrives on jargon instead of substance. Helps explain failures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m impreesed with the number of comments about the book, and unimpressed with the book. This idea, &#8216;Get the right people on the bus, then figure out where to go&#8217; sounds like typical hokey jargon, meaningless. How does one determine the qualities needed in the right people if one does not first determine what you want out of them? Scary that so many people look to this book for guidance.<br />
As a VP for a non-profit health organization, I am struck with how the business world thrives on jargon instead of substance. Helps explain failures.</p>
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		<title>By: J Toole</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Toole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 04:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob has done a service here by bringing the searchlight closer to the subject. Nature is harmonious and every element fits in perfect proportion. The laws of nature are indestructible, permanent and invariable. It&#039;s secrets are yet to be completely revealed, yet if even feebly emulated in family or business matters, for example,  an astonishing outcome will result. Could we say that such families or businesses have uncovered the vastness of nature’s secrets?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob has done a service here by bringing the searchlight closer to the subject. Nature is harmonious and every element fits in perfect proportion. The laws of nature are indestructible, permanent and invariable. It&#8217;s secrets are yet to be completely revealed, yet if even feebly emulated in family or business matters, for example,  an astonishing outcome will result. Could we say that such families or businesses have uncovered the vastness of nature’s secrets?</p>
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		<title>By: Higor Torchia</title>
		<link>http://www.businesspundit.com/why-good-to-great-isnt-very-good/comment-page-2/#comment-28234</link>
		<dc:creator>Higor Torchia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 16:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kind of books usually don&#039;t impress me. Neither did this one. However, all those comments about it do impress me a lot! 
My point is that there is no way to determine some actions or behaviors that will for sure make your company to be successful. When you talk about business you talk about people, about adversities, about situations, about interactions... And those are all very variable. Business Management is way too far to be an exact science. It is not like cooking a cake, that you just have to follow the steps correctly and things will go good. There are so many other things that can change the path you&#039;re walking on. 
And that&#039;s why all this comments impress me that much. Well, stated that this is not an exact science and that there is no way to create a check list that will make you succeed amazingly on your company, why people get so impressed that sometimes it doesn&#039;t work at all? The true is that it will never happen. And if (surprisingly for me) it happens at some point, you can sell that book for millions, cause anyone would pay whatever is costs to make his/her company the greatest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of books usually don&#8217;t impress me. Neither did this one. However, all those comments about it do impress me a lot!<br />
My point is that there is no way to determine some actions or behaviors that will for sure make your company to be successful. When you talk about business you talk about people, about adversities, about situations, about interactions&#8230; And those are all very variable. Business Management is way too far to be an exact science. It is not like cooking a cake, that you just have to follow the steps correctly and things will go good. There are so many other things that can change the path you&#8217;re walking on.<br />
And that&#8217;s why all this comments impress me that much. Well, stated that this is not an exact science and that there is no way to create a check list that will make you succeed amazingly on your company, why people get so impressed that sometimes it doesn&#8217;t work at all? The true is that it will never happen. And if (surprisingly for me) it happens at some point, you can sell that book for millions, cause anyone would pay whatever is costs to make his/her company the greatest.</p>
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		<title>By: COne</title>
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		<dc:creator>COne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 21:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a fitness manager reading several business and leadership books in rapid succession, so that no one idea becomes fixed in my mind as THE WAY.  My goal is to improve my position and bring timely, relevant ideas to an industry that mostly fails when it should be skyrocketing;  The national obesity crisis and health care hell scape are examples of how the fitness industry can&#039;t get it together enough to capitalize on these gapping opportunities.  I also practice Yoga and meditation, (don&#039;t laugh) which provide me with paradoxical insights.  For example there is a Buddhist principle that reminds students not to mistake the light of moon to be the same as the light of the sun.  One is the source and the other is a reflection.  Books are good, research is good, but as a whole they are mere reflections of something greater.  If you are reading any book for guidance, be on your guard for &quot;mistaking the moon for the sun&quot;.  People will always agree with things they already understand and appreciate.  Jim Collins carefully presents concepts that many people will agree with - DUH!  Who wants to read anything else?  Finally, consider this.  Moon gazing is very pleasant.  We get the light without becoming blind or sun burned.  Gazing at the sun will blind you and, without protection will burn your skin and potential give you skin cancer.  In this way, the best chapter concept in Jim&#039;s book is Disciplined Thought, (i.e. meditation... Sorry, had to go there).  Meditation allows one to align themselves with the source/essence so you won&#039;t ever get burned.  Note, you are aligning with with the source, not gazing at it for inspiration.  Mediation will allow you to hire the right people, make the right decision and, most of all, not be deluded by the allure of greatness in the first place.  Thanks to all of you for your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a fitness manager reading several business and leadership books in rapid succession, so that no one idea becomes fixed in my mind as THE WAY.  My goal is to improve my position and bring timely, relevant ideas to an industry that mostly fails when it should be skyrocketing;  The national obesity crisis and health care hell scape are examples of how the fitness industry can&#8217;t get it together enough to capitalize on these gapping opportunities.  I also practice Yoga and meditation, (don&#8217;t laugh) which provide me with paradoxical insights.  For example there is a Buddhist principle that reminds students not to mistake the light of moon to be the same as the light of the sun.  One is the source and the other is a reflection.  Books are good, research is good, but as a whole they are mere reflections of something greater.  If you are reading any book for guidance, be on your guard for &#8220;mistaking the moon for the sun&#8221;.  People will always agree with things they already understand and appreciate.  Jim Collins carefully presents concepts that many people will agree with &#8211; DUH!  Who wants to read anything else?  Finally, consider this.  Moon gazing is very pleasant.  We get the light without becoming blind or sun burned.  Gazing at the sun will blind you and, without protection will burn your skin and potential give you skin cancer.  In this way, the best chapter concept in Jim&#8217;s book is Disciplined Thought, (i.e. meditation&#8230; Sorry, had to go there).  Meditation allows one to align themselves with the source/essence so you won&#8217;t ever get burned.  Note, you are aligning with with the source, not gazing at it for inspiration.  Mediation will allow you to hire the right people, make the right decision and, most of all, not be deluded by the allure of greatness in the first place.  Thanks to all of you for your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 13:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, I enjoyed the book too but to say it breaks down fundamentals just isn&#039;t true.  It is not a fundamentals book (it doesn&#039;t go through accounting, production, HR, etc.) and doesn&#039;t try to be.  It is the publication of the results of an exploratory study.

Jim&#039;s methodology could be used to find that companies with red stars in their logos do better (or blue bars or gold stripes - you&#039;d need to actually do the research to find out which) but this wouldn&#039;t be a good reason to switch your corporate logo.  Likewise, &quot;people-first&quot; might make sense sometimes and not at other times (just to take one example).  Thus, business leaders who follow his advice might end up, as you say, focusing on things that don&#039;t matter in search of a silver bullet.


The findings have not been replicated (i.e. proven) and though many have intuitive appeal some have been at least partially refuted (take a look at the link I submitted above).  I can&#039;t see how your analogy with the marathon runner fits - it&#039;s more like if most successful marathon runners drink soy milk then aspiring marathon runners should too - it may or may not be a good idea.  And in business, focusing on something that may or may not add value is rarely a great idea.  For this reason, I&#039;ve not heard of a whole lot of &quot;smart business people [raving] about this book.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, I enjoyed the book too but to say it breaks down fundamentals just isn&#8217;t true.  It is not a fundamentals book (it doesn&#8217;t go through accounting, production, HR, etc.) and doesn&#8217;t try to be.  It is the publication of the results of an exploratory study.</p>
<p>Jim&#8217;s methodology could be used to find that companies with red stars in their logos do better (or blue bars or gold stripes &#8211; you&#8217;d need to actually do the research to find out which) but this wouldn&#8217;t be a good reason to switch your corporate logo.  Likewise, &#8220;people-first&#8221; might make sense sometimes and not at other times (just to take one example).  Thus, business leaders who follow his advice might end up, as you say, focusing on things that don&#8217;t matter in search of a silver bullet.</p>
<p>The findings have not been replicated (i.e. proven) and though many have intuitive appeal some have been at least partially refuted (take a look at the link I submitted above).  I can&#8217;t see how your analogy with the marathon runner fits &#8211; it&#8217;s more like if most successful marathon runners drink soy milk then aspiring marathon runners should too &#8211; it may or may not be a good idea.  And in business, focusing on something that may or may not add value is rarely a great idea.  For this reason, I&#8217;ve not heard of a whole lot of &#8220;smart business people [raving] about this book.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 05:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this book and loved it. I understand the points brought forth but think the here argument misses the point entirely. I think the book is great because it breaks down the fundamentals of running a great business. Often times businesses look for silver bullets or start focusing on things that don&#039;t matter. It is human nature for CEO&#039;s and other C-levels in the company to neglect that which seems easy but the mark of a great company as pointed out by this book is one that has a firm grasp of following the fundamentals. Of course they sound easy and everyone knows they should be hiring good people and if they don&#039;t work out in a role they should find another role but you would be surprised how many companies don&#039;t execute on this concept. The reason smart business people rave about this book is it reminds them that to be great you can never neglect the fundamental elements of running a good business. What are those fundamentals you ask, read the book!!!!

To be a world class marathon runner you have to eat healthy, run every day, have a great coach, and put your heart into running. That doesn&#039;t mean that by finding someone who follows these things and is not a great marathon runner that the principles are useless. Conversely it doesn&#039;t mean that by finding an exceptional person who is a great mararthon runner and doesn&#039;t follow these principles that you would advise others to negelect the fundamentals.

From a scientific point of the argument pointed out here does put holes in his book. But for anyone who has run a business or been deeply involved they understand that Jim&#039;s principles are right on and they serve as a reminder that we always need to focus on the fundamentals. We don&#039;t need it to be proven with the scientific method to understand that... we just like knowing that Jim followed a reasonable methodology based in science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this book and loved it. I understand the points brought forth but think the here argument misses the point entirely. I think the book is great because it breaks down the fundamentals of running a great business. Often times businesses look for silver bullets or start focusing on things that don&#8217;t matter. It is human nature for CEO&#8217;s and other C-levels in the company to neglect that which seems easy but the mark of a great company as pointed out by this book is one that has a firm grasp of following the fundamentals. Of course they sound easy and everyone knows they should be hiring good people and if they don&#8217;t work out in a role they should find another role but you would be surprised how many companies don&#8217;t execute on this concept. The reason smart business people rave about this book is it reminds them that to be great you can never neglect the fundamental elements of running a good business. What are those fundamentals you ask, read the book!!!!</p>
<p>To be a world class marathon runner you have to eat healthy, run every day, have a great coach, and put your heart into running. That doesn&#8217;t mean that by finding someone who follows these things and is not a great marathon runner that the principles are useless. Conversely it doesn&#8217;t mean that by finding an exceptional person who is a great mararthon runner and doesn&#8217;t follow these principles that you would advise others to negelect the fundamentals.</p>
<p>From a scientific point of the argument pointed out here does put holes in his book. But for anyone who has run a business or been deeply involved they understand that Jim&#8217;s principles are right on and they serve as a reminder that we always need to focus on the fundamentals. We don&#8217;t need it to be proven with the scientific method to understand that&#8230; we just like knowing that Jim followed a reasonable methodology based in science.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilraen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilraen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 11:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this honest review. This book was just recommended to me as the beesknees to learn about leadership. I was searching for some counter balance as the description of great company by Collins makes my skin crawl in a negative way. The synopsis we were given was too so vague that I felt it to be just another business book with some interesting ideas to do with as I see fit, but not a business gospell book as it is being presented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this honest review. This book was just recommended to me as the beesknees to learn about leadership. I was searching for some counter balance as the description of great company by Collins makes my skin crawl in a negative way. The synopsis we were given was too so vague that I felt it to be just another business book with some interesting ideas to do with as I see fit, but not a business gospell book as it is being presented.</p>
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		<title>By: J. MacAuslan</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. MacAuslan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 00:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sympathies, Steve.  

Yes, survivorship bias is alive and well and living in *parts* of GtG.  (Reading &quot;Outliers&quot; now.  Haven&#039;t come to that section, but I&#039;m looking forward to it.)  FWIW, Berkshire Hathaway was excluded from GtG on what I consider fluke grounds (calendar date), and it might confirm Collin&#039;s finding, not undercut it.

As I see it, the problem with looking for the groundbreaking companies (MS, Nokia, Apple) as models is that the ground is constantly breaking *everywhere* -- but only exposing extraordinarily fertile soil in a few places that don&#039;t announce themselves at the time.  (Why didn&#039;t videophones take off to dominate the world in 1955? or jet packs in 1965? or Segways in 2000?)

You might get more from Collin&#039;s first book, BtL.  At least in there you can see businesses that have been around for decades (my favorite, and Bill Hewlett&#039;s(!): 3M) AND &quot;took risks, saw market gaps, and went for it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sympathies, Steve.  </p>
<p>Yes, survivorship bias is alive and well and living in *parts* of GtG.  (Reading &#8220;Outliers&#8221; now.  Haven&#8217;t come to that section, but I&#8217;m looking forward to it.)  FWIW, Berkshire Hathaway was excluded from GtG on what I consider fluke grounds (calendar date), and it might confirm Collin&#8217;s finding, not undercut it.</p>
<p>As I see it, the problem with looking for the groundbreaking companies (MS, Nokia, Apple) as models is that the ground is constantly breaking *everywhere* &#8212; but only exposing extraordinarily fertile soil in a few places that don&#8217;t announce themselves at the time.  (Why didn&#8217;t videophones take off to dominate the world in 1955? or jet packs in 1965? or Segways in 2000?)</p>
<p>You might get more from Collin&#8217;s first book, BtL.  At least in there you can see businesses that have been around for decades (my favorite, and Bill Hewlett&#8217;s(!): 3M) AND &#8220;took risks, saw market gaps, and went for it.&#8221;</p>
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